Monday, 17 August 2009

How big is your rock?

A friend of mine just bought a big diamond ring. Obviously, it was not for himself but for the usual purpose of a diamond ring… marriage proposal. This friend (who reads this blog) told me he spent more than RM20,000 for that ring. I suppose the diamond is more than 1 carat. I personally estimate the whole thing to be about RM23,000.

I noticed a worrying trend amongst guys lately, although I shouldn’t be worrying anymore. There appears to be a genuine fear that their loving girlfriend will actually say “No” if that piece of rock that they present on the ring is not big enough.

I am not saying that this friend of mine who just spent more than RM20,000 on his rock is afraid that his sweetheart will say no. But really, there is a genuine fear out there.

Funny enough, such fear also present in guys who claim that their girlfriend loves them not because of their money. Perhaps a matter of ego then?

To me, if I propose and the girl rejects because the rock is not big enough, I will most definitely bid her farewell and find a girl who will appreciates whatever size of the rock that I propose with.

I am sure many of your will come out with your own reasoning such as “sincerity” or “symbolic of the guy’s love” etc. etc. If that is the case, are you saying that you judge your boyfriend’s sincerity based on the size of the rock? What about the size of his cock? Okay… I am sure you know that size his cock is and is satisfied with that already…

But anyway…

I certainly agree that if a guy can afford a big rock, then perhaps he shouldn’t get a sesame seed size one for his darling. But really, to all the girls out there… if you are being surprised by your long-loving boyfriend with a romantic proposal and he present to you a rock that is not up to your expectation… will you say no?

P/S: Do you remember
the millionaire? He proposed… without even a ring. He is now married.

45 comments:

KGC said...

Hi there Zewt,
I thought you are a bit sexist there when you mentioned c*ck (yes, I am a female!). Having said that, I still agree with you that a reply of yes or no depends on the size of the rock does not represent the quantity of his love/devotion.
On the practical side, who wears that big diamond ring after the wedding? It will only attract unwanted attention. :)
Cheers!

MKL said...

Good points, Zewt. Couldn't agree more with you. This is clearly a trend in Malaysia, that is not very common here in Europe.

I think you weren't sexist at all with your example, because appearance and expensive goods should not be something that holds 2 people together over a long term. It should be love and affection, the characters, the care. These 'things' should be secondary.

Theodwyn said...

The size of the rock doesn't matter at all, or even the size of his cock... lol..

It's the love, trust, dedication, and commitment which matters.

mott said...

This out of topic..but wrt to ur comment in MG's post...

Feel free to read my take on it.

Again, all comments are welcomed and appreciated. I always thought we should live life, not be dogged down by the diseases and carnage that surrounds us.

Cindy Khor said...

well, even if my bf were to present me something smaller, i wouldn't say no, but i'm more likely to get upset as i had told him like a hundredth time to get me a 1 carat diamond at least, no need for quality 4c, just normal 1 carat will do, hehe, evil right??

Jerine said...

Your friend should have more confidence in himself. That's what true men have. I think he's just insecure, so he has to get a bigger cock. Oh, no.... I mean rock.

Jennifer said...

I bet most women who have good head on their shoulders should know it doesn't matter how big the rock is. Of course, many are just too proud to admit that and wish to show others how good/rich their future husbands are...The funny thing is I saw many who own big big rock but just wore once or twice in their entire life. Too afraid of losing the rock. I wonder does it really matter in the end that all you do is hide the rock in the drawer...Should you also hide the husband...afraid of losing him???

Sherry said...

I just heard this recently - apparently the rule of thumb in Singapore is the rock should be worth 3 months of the guy's salary (gross). AT LEAST.

:-)

Mei Teng said...

I hope women see marriage beyond the rock(s).

Zuraida said...

I'd even settle for a band instead of rock if there's insurance that my man is faitful, reliable and will love me even when I am old, grey and sagging.

There are some things money can't buy. But then if he's freaking rich like JayZ obviously takkan la wanna give a band je kot? Beyonce got an 8 carat aite?

Swee Ping said...

If the guy can afford a bigger diamond rock, then yeah, guess girl will be offended if the guy didn't buy a bigger one but it depends. No every girl is like that. Have to see on the financial status of that guy.

But a marriage proposal doesn't just revolve around a diamond ring or how big is it, right? What's important is the relationship and sincerity in it.

Think about what if bigger rock but a rocky marriage ahead?

Nice to have a diamond ring but what's important is the heart of that guy.

pinknpurplelizard said...

I prefer gold ingots! More valuable! LOL!

No... I'm not a diamond or little sparkly rock person. Hehehe...

I agree totally with Swee Ping that marriage should not revolve around the ring. It's a lifetime partnership not a trade of valuables for the girl.

missironic said...

i think we gals of course love those sparkling diamonds. But, when comes to marriage.. it is more than just the rock. So i feel.. whether to accept the marriage or not, it depends on whether the gal willing to spend the rest of her life wif him, in sickness and in health. And how much his sincerity in walking that life together. So, the rock is just a symbolism, i feel..

But i wont deny..if the guy is super duper rich, i don't tink the gal will really think he'll get her a small rock lor..she definitely expect something bigger! i mean, this kind of human expectation is common, right? Hahaha...

iamthewitch said...

I think it depends on the guy's financial capability. If we know a guy can easily afford a larger rock and yet he's only getting one which is barely visible, at the risk of being called materialistic, I would think twice before answering. I mean, you can't deny that it DOES show how 'much' you mean to him, indirectly. But of course, it doesn't have to be overly huge (>1carat) that it's impractical.

zewt said...

KGC - oh, i certainly thought you were a guy, no offence :)

MKL - hmmm... so what's the trend in europe? looking at celebrity news, their rock can be quite big too. but of cos, they are celebs.

Theodwyn - but the size of the co*k will affect the love and thrust... i mean trust... ok, i digress hahah.

mott - cant seem to access the link you gave. i will try again when i go home.

Cindy Khor - there you go... one who has got a pre-requisite :P

Jerine - hahaha... are u saying he doesnt have a big cock and thus he gets a big rock? :P

Jennifer - well said, many wish to display their husband or husband-to-be financial prowess, more than anything, more than getting a sparkling rock. hahaha... i think one should not link hiding rock with hiding's husband...

~aSstHa~ said...

I guess I agree with most the comments here. If the guy is earning a substantial amount of income we'd surely expect a bigger diamond as a proposal but if the guy isn't there's no sense in expecting him to get a uber huge rock...

Buddenah... the relationship between woman n diamonds are an age old tie... u have man's best friend = dogs... and well woman's best friend is diamonds... having said that... i tink i'll b OK with a rock that cost abt 5k... or if the guy is smart, he'd go to some place to source for cheaper diamonds... hey, these places do exist... jz a matter of if u're willing to go the extra mile or if u jz want convenience then u'll pay the hefty price tag that comes along wit it. I should know. I got a set of rubies earrings and pendant for RM100+ and they're authentic... but u gotta know ur stuff or bring someone who does so u dun get cheated.

Or get Briolite instead... it's a synthetic gemstone created using a method called radio frequency induction to match natural diamonds in virtually every aesthetic property. The chemical composition of the stone, combined with ideal cutting achieved through extraordinarily precise faceting machines, makes briolite the best diamond substitute on the market.

So good apparently even a good jeweler can't tell the difference so hey... there's a thought...

zewt said...

Sherry - singapore... i am not surprise... and 3 months salary in singapore... will get you a really big rock!

Mei Teng - amen to that.

Zuraida - hahaha... old grey and sagging, that's what marriage is all about anyway, kan? cant compare with jayz... but then again, how can anyone wear a 8 carat diamond??????

Swee Ping - i guess it's easier said than done though... based on all the comments, guys can just propose with a sesame seed ring... :P

pinknpurplelizard - gold... more practical too... can sell should anything happen hahha...

missironic - what if a super rich guy propose with a sesame seed size rock but give you a condo and a car?

iamthewitch - ditto to my reply to missironic... what if he buys you a car and a condo instead of a ring? it's like... he has the car and condo stand by and propose with a sesame seed rock. if you say no, say bye bye to the condo/car....

Asstha - hmmm... you sound like a jewellery expert here already, very scientific too... :) 5k... that's so expensive :P... but check out the situation i said to iamthewitch...

Yvonne Foong said...

I think guys might feel bigger rocks make their girls want to lean on those rocks for survival and not run away to find a better rock.

Sharon said...

it's true that marriage should be based on love and not money etc etc but the reality is we cannot deny that $$$ also helps to make it work, tho i'm not saying that it's THE ONLY thing that makes it works, just makes it easier to do things together.

i won't be saying yes to a guy just because his diamond is big enough, just like any other woman, it's the thought of whether you can live with the fact that you see yourself with him and only for the rest of your life. but of course, not to throw cold water, people CAN change.

these days guys try to get bigger rock to flaunt their status too, they want to show the world that if he can afford such hugeass rock, he can afford to take care of her, but i just think it's plain stupid. of course i wont complain if my bf is a millionaire but if he's not, i'd ask him to return the ring and pay for a round the world plane ticket for me. stupidity has its limits too ya know..

and ok, i'll probably get a lot of hate comments for saying this but let me be honest, yes the SIZE does matter, I can't live with a bad sex for the rest of my life if I'm only going to spend it with only one guy!.. opps sorry!

jam said...

I cannot afford a big rock, but I have a big cock to offer.

missironic said...

hahaha.. i like ur "wat if" question..can b considered! hahaha.. but materialistic issue aside, at the end of the day, is still count on whether the guy treat the gal right, sincere and well or not. If got millions of money and still treat the gal bad, then there's no point to get married. Will only make things sadder. that's what i feel. :)

MKL said...

While I was in Malaysia, one guy bought a 5000rm ring for his girlfriend. That girl was my ex's cousin. I was shocked. It was just like a gift. Guess what, before I returned back to Europe, they broke up already. I guess the ring was not reason enough to keep the relationship going (of course it wasn't).

Rin said...

diamond and ring is soooo... uncreative, don't people have more creative ways of proposing these days? Like ask your partner to marry you while jumping out of a plane (skydiving), or jumping down a bridge (bungee jumping) even though you are afraid of heights (but with a healthy heart lah)...Or at the top of Mount Kinabalu or some mountain with an awesome view after both of you help each other hike up to the peak...
Oops, admit i'm a romantic so diamond/gems, big or small, don't appeal at all =P

p/s: thinking of the highly likely bloody origin of the diamond/gem stone is going to turn me off further. *blek*

neno said...

i dun wan any rock..jus gif me cash..lol

KoKo said...

zewt, agreed :P

Terra Shield said...

Size of the rock is immaterial... seriously, if any girl rejects someone just because the rock is not big enough, the guy should be thankful he didn't get stuck with her for life! Other reasons for rejection e.g: cheating, abusive, makes her cry all the time, etc are totally fine. I'm female, BTW.

Miss Pharmacist said...

big rock is nice.

nikki said...

Personally, I'd be happy without a ring. I'd rather he save that money for something else (unless he's a millionaire or billionaire, which in that case he should buy me an estate to breed penguins at!) :D

Tine said...

Look if the guy can afford it (say he's a big earner), and he presents a measly ring to the girl, then I think it's fair to say that the girl should be offended. Either he's too cheap to even splurge on such a momentous occasion (goodness knows what it's going to be like after they get married), or he's trying to test her if she loves him for the money or not (personally I think this is an insult, but hey, that's just me).

If my man cannot afford it, then even a simple band from Poh Kong going at RM50 or less is good enough for me.

It's very easy to say nah, I don't need a ring. But trust me, 20 years down the road, who's going to say you're not even going to complain ONCE that you never had an engagement ring (or any other engagement token). Goodness knows I've heard enough complaints from plenty of women I know whom are married for years.

Oh, and for the size of his c*ck, please. This day and age, a woman is self-sufficient. Whether she's married or not ;)

~aSstHa~ said...

den of course i'd take dat into consideration... hving said dat...

no la... me no jewellery expert... an ex-colleague was shopping for his engagement ring whilst I was still at that company so he sorta told me d details... on briolite I was kinda shopping online and happened to chance upon it..

5k is the price u normally pay a our local jewelers... hving said that... it's not all dat big, not too sure abt d grade either...

but i'd trade dat in for love and a husband who won't cheat on me.. bigger diamonds can b bought along the way of the marriage as anniversary gifts if the couple is able... as it is during weddings a huge chunk is taken out of our pockets jz to put on a show to please our parents n keep our relatives mouth shut...

Ohhh.. n regarding Sharon's comment i'd like to rephrase... size doesn't matter... it doesn't mean if the "size" is huge the sex is gonna b... if a man has no idea how to please a woman in bed... having a big member doesn't help much... n if the sex is good but the man doesn't quite treats u well... there's no point in mind blowing sex if he's not emotionally committed to u den is it?

and on Rin's comment (zewt forgive me for this uber long comment)... the blood diamond trade is something that is under control. there's a sanction under the UN dat forbids countries from buying from them. so the percentage of u buying one is almost 1%. I guess u watched the movie Blood Diamond and got put off. I too got put off but did some research back after the movie. If u remember, at d end of the movie this sanction was actually mentioned. Jz to let u know...

And I agree wit Tine, u have to hv at least some token for an engagement... i know of some who didn't and now complain about it... it does happen...

littlepolaris said...

as long as i know my man is capable financially to keep my kids well fed, give them a comfortable home and give them education, i will say yes to him regardless what he is giving me on proposal. I'm marrying him bcos of who he is and how he love me for who I am, not that rock. Of course if i know this guy is not serious in relationship, got no planning for future, no family planning etc and just looking for a fling; I won't even give him a chance to begin with.

Anonymous said...

dunno leh..my bf ring is more expensive than mine, his cost RM600, not even couple ring, he got silver i got rosegold... how? dump him?

lol

angie said...

The size of the ring represents many things, mostly to the benefit of the guys:
1. The bigger it is, the easier it's noticed by interested-male
2. The bigger it is, the smaller the cock is

Unfortunately, (or fortunate for some guys), the bigger the cock is, the ring doesnt matter.

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Purple~MushRooM said...

My rock only 0.35 and cheap. I married my hubby poor...

zewt said...

Yvonne Foong - hmmm.. that just doesnt sounds too right, doesnt it?

Sharon - hahahaha... so for you, it's not the rock but the cock that matters :P haha!

jam - you should flaunt that to Sharon :P hahahahaha!!

missironic - "treating a girl right" is rather subjective. the size of the rock is very measurable... thus that is always used as a measurement. i think.

MKL - did she keep the ring? :P

Rin - yes, you can do all that or even come out with more creative manners, but at the end of the day, one still need a diamond to propose. if a guy takes a girl to the moon and does not have a ring, it's still not complete. oh yes, blood diamond aside.

zewt said...

neno - HAHAHAHAHAHA... now that is what i call an honest answer.

KoKo - wait for part 2 as promised :P

Terra Shield - i know you're a female... :P if a girl reject becos of size of rock, the guy should be thankful indeed. if a girl reject becos of size of cock... errr...

Miss Pharmacist - ubean, are you reading this?

nikki - hello, welcome! penguins!? hahaha... now, that's a first! need to be in a very cold place to do that though.

Tine - ahh... complaints from other women, now that is good info indeed. those not married to read this :) ... as for being self sufficient... i hope this level of sufficiency is electonically connected and not an organic replacement.

zewt said...

aSstHa - no worries in replying to others. long comments are always welcomed. but one thing though, i would never believe in those sanctions and control on underground trade. if you look at the journalism of those who goes to africa, you can still see that blood diamond is still very real and very sad.

littlepolaris - so if you are already dating him for a few years, are you saying that you already know his competence and a rock is not needed?

anon @ 21/8 10.34am - dump! what you waiting for? hahahahaha...

angie - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... now, that is a comment that i enjoy reading... how apt! my friend who got a big rock... hmmm....

Alana - thanks.

purple mushroom - no worries, he is very capable of getting you a 3.5 carat now. go demand for 1 !!! :P

cindy said...

I don't mind big rock or small rock..as long as he has no foreskin. :P

MKL said...

I think she kept the ring. If otherwise, there's no point to the story, hehehe..

-eiling- said...

Now why don't someone propose with a house grant and keys instead of a useless piece of rock?!

M.E. said...

if anybody propose with hs grant and keys, does that mean her name is in there too? and that's prior to marriage, ya know.

plus, a guy who proposes with hs grant and stuff shows that he's stable, mature and boring as hell.

a rock's the only romantic thing a guy'll ever do in his whole lifetime if he's never been romantic before. and ppl would never laugh at him.

zewt said...

cindy - hahahahahahahahaha.... you mean rock or c?

MKL - most of the time, the guys didnt want it back anyway.

-eiling- - you should start that as the latest trend. haha!

M.E. - so should a guy be romantic or practical?

HappySurfer said...

Hey, it's not always the lady's fault, you know. The guy insists on getting her that boulder of a rock that's bound to rock in the eyes of his pals.. Ahh... a guy's ego..

zewt said...

HappySurfer - ahh... i will never do that :P